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Old 10-05-2007, 09:23 PM   #1
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Icon14 Vegetables, meat and the problem of food.

Hey all.

I decided to make this thread because of some discussion about this subject in Illusions Homework problem.

Sorry for it is so long, but I had to tell everything, please read all and add something if i forgot.

And here is the deal.

If we all where vegetarians there would be 4x more then enough food for every single person on this planet.


Believe it or not. and here is the reason.

there is a big environmental difference between eating meat and not eating meat. We are concerned with land use, water use, water pollution, air pollution, habitat, and packaging, and animals have a larger impact than plants in most of these categories
Meat producers (hehe) like cows, tends to use alot of space, and I mean ALOT!
And the amount of food they produce from that area is not much. So we need ALOT of cows and ALOT of cow places to make theese dumb animals fat as a 1980 computer and then sloughter them like some other bad horror movie.

Okay that was weird.

Anyways, if we instead decided to. "Hey cow meat eeeew". And set theese animals free or sent them to space or whatever, and just farmed Vegetables in the area instead there would be more then enough food for the whole world. We would be more healthy aswell, and have less sickness.

One thing though, chickens and Hens are good, they use a very small space and produce alot of food, and healthy food. And Eggs are yoummy, same with chicken meat, mmmm. And we can live without cow meat, but not without eggs. A Hen can produce 2 eggs per day or is it more? Dunno, but man it's sick, think of an cow area. Maybe one km3 on 20 cows. How many Hens and the food for the hens can you press into that area? 50? 100? with their food, what does hens eat again? Grain? Yeah, well and hens produce atleast 1 egg each day the whole eg season, I dunno how long that is but man, it's alot more food then the 520 cows a year. It's probably many thousand eggs each year, I think we are talkin 100 000 + !
Same with Chickens though they Die for us to get their food, we can allways take some eggs and make them into chickens right?

1 farm for eggs 1 farm for chicken eggs and 1 farm for chicken meat!

But still the most effective thing is to plant vegetables like potatos, carrots, tomatoes, lettuce, in theese areas. To get food.


Btw Sheep Meat In norway and NZ and Australia isn't that bad because they often go in the mountains where there is no opertunity to farm vegetables instead, same with goats. But when they make flat areas into cow and sheep farms, when they could instead made it to a vegetable farm, that is kinda annoying.

Also there would be much cleaner air, because cows sheeps and those animals produce co2 whereas vegetables produce o2 (air)

(co2 gass results to the ozon layer getting thinner, wich again results to UV filters getting through, wich results to higher chances of canser. Also it makes some sort of layer of gass, that makes the sun beams bounce extra times before going to space, wich results to the globe getting hotter, wich results to poles melting, wich results to floods, and worst , a ice age on the europeasn continent, because the cold water stram from the melted north pole can cut off the warm gulf stream that warms Europa )

And vegetables need less transportation and packaging then Meat wich also results to less CO2 pollution.

So My advice, ( atleast I will follow it ) Is to stop eating meat, you can eat chicken meet though. Or atleast eat less meat and more eggs and vegetables! And we will have a smaller demand on meat, and higher demand on vegetables, means cow farms turn into way more food effective vegetables farm, results in more food

But it doesn't only help for us to do this, we need the goverment with us to make this organized and give some of the extra food we get each cow farm that turn into vegetable farm to those that need food.

Also Sheep meat is gross ( though beef is kinda good ) But chicken meat is the best! And Vegetables is good if prepared right ( like asian food )
I can live with Salat chicken meat and eggs. No problem.

And another advice, eat fruit instead of candy, juice instead of cola. It's much better and much healthier. And the production of fruit makes alot less co2 then the production of soda and candy. ( oh the grammar there was wrong )

Also, it is important that you inform your household of this, and tell your daddy/housekeeper to buy less meat, or else he would throw the meat you don't eat, and that doesn't help. We need to think global people. It will help if alot of people do this.

Also you fart less if you eat vegetables instead of meat. ( wich also result in less co2 production from you)

Comon guys live a healthier life, make less pollution, get fresher, save the world! Be a fruitty boy!!!

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Old 10-05-2007, 09:25 PM   #2
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lol

eating animals reduces C02 emissions no joke lol.
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Wtf.

Anyways , plants produce O2 whereas animals produce co2. The packaging, transportation and all that stuff also produces less co2 on plants. Also We humans will fart less and make less co2 from our body if we eat vegetables instead of meat.


The plants can make more food from the area they use. It is healthier aswell.

Only good thing about plants.
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So if we only eat Vegetables, And Chicken, Your saying that the co2 will be lowered?
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Wtf.

Anyways , plants produce O2 whereas animals produce co2. The packaging, transportation and all that stuff also produces less co2 on plants. Also We humans will fart less and make less co2 from our body if we eat vegetables instead of meat.


The plants can make more food from the area they use. It is healthier aswell.

Only good thing about plants.
lol right i do understand what your saying but one big factor..... also effecting global warming, plants photosynthesis:

carbon dioxide + water + light energy -> glucose + oxygen + water

while we do the opposite (respiration)

glucose + oxygen -> carbon dioxide + water + energy

to put it simply, the more plants there are on earth the more oxygen. this is most true when cutting down trees, one of the main problems cutting down the amazon rainforest in brazil. this carbon dioxide which is now in access cant get used up in photosynthesis, gets released into the atmosphere causing global warming.

i am not saying if we all eat lots of meat the earth will get cooler, but it is not one or the other. it is best to do a mixture of both.
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Well Plants make co2 at the day, but at night they produce 2x more oxygen so they help.

And Human makes co2 not oksygen, through breath, fart, and piss and ____.
And we will make less co2 if we eat less meat and more plants.
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Well Plants make co2 at the day, but at night they produce 2x more oxygen so they help.

And Human makes co2 not oksygen, through breath, fart, and piss and ____.
And we will make less co2 if we eat less meat and more plants.
thats what i said lol.... but all animals are like that lol, co2 emissions are a natural process. we dont help with cars and stuff, but it is natural.
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Lawlz, Jorgi. Plants produce O, not o2...

Learn2science, lol.

Anyway; trust me, if this was truly a huge factor, someone's government would have limited the amount of meat we could eat, or rationed it.

"Logic" isn't always fact, bro; I mean, seriously, would no one have thought of this before you? No offense, I'm just saying. XD.

Anyway, hell with that. I'm going to be eat meat. And lots of it, lol.

But ya. Eggs + Chicken = Hawt.

lol.

Double Cheeseburgers = <3.

Kk. Anyways, that's my side.

Also, there is an earthworm in america, originally from south america, that produces 10x more co2 emissions than all burned fossil fuels combined. Owned.
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Lawlz, Jorgi. Plants produce O, not o2...
actually thats wrong LMAO

oxygen is diatomic. it only exists in nature as a molecule of 2 atoms. (another common example is H2 (Hydrogen molecule))
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CRAP I JUST LEARNED THAT LIKE 2 DAYS AGO.

I HATE MYSELF NOW.

/SUICIDE.

I need to learn2science. Sorry Jorgi
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HAHAHA PWNED!!!

Anyways, It isn't a big factor of co2 what i was talking about, but it helps a little, and if everyone is vegetarians it helps in a notable difference.

But the main point is that if we eat more vegetables, chicken and eggs, and less meat, that will result in less demand i nmeat and more demand in vegetables, chicken and eggs, and that will result in cow farms turning into vegetables/chicken/egg farms, and that will result in more food per KM3, because chicken/eggs/vegetables can produce ALOT more food effectly per KM3 then Cow,sheep eg farms.

Also it is healthier and with all the factors together transportation, packaging, humans eating healthier food, The co2 level will lower if we all where vegetarians. Because there is less work with vegetables, and easier packaging, and it can be packaged in paper bags or some sort of plast that will transform to compost when the food rottens. (vegetables)

Less pollution.


About atoms, O is the ground everything with one letter is the original atom, and those with numbers and letter combination, is mixed atoms turning into a molecule

Take H2O it is combined with 2 atoms ( two hydrogen (gass) atoms and one oxygen atom (gass) making one molecule h2o ( liquid ) )

And this is a big factor and even, goverment don't care, why? because it's easier and more money out of it, and because most people don't care.

And yeah it's been said before, it is a fact, but people don't care.
Sad but true.
Everything that will save the world, won't happen even though it is a fact. Take pollution, china, and usa CAN reduce their CO2 very very much if they use some extra money, but they won't.
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