Fallout New Vegas speculation thread

[knarF]

Since the day of the official anouncement that Fallout New Vagas was being made i've fapped over every piece of information.
Well now there is a teaser trailer...
Fallout New Vegas
And a competition to win a signed poster (see GL home page).

Anyway, i'm off to my room, don't disturb me for a while.

[Oggie]

Awesome, I can't wait. I loved Fallout 3 because the world was so huge and the DLC made it tons better.

[knarF]

I just love fallout. I'll happily admit to being a fan boy, although in a few ways F3 disapointed me, still a freaking epic game, but it wasn't 100% true to the story line for the originals, although it was a different company, and they made a decent job of it. I'm hoping for more black comedy involved this time, that's one of the things Bethesda missed, there was bits, but not enough.

Anyway, this has a few original devs involved, and i'm hoping they go for more of a F2 approach this time, as in someone who's used to living in the wastes and not a vault dweller. But, as usual, i have my worries. They better take ntoe of New Reno and the 4 gangs from F2, or i'll be slightly pissed. Although if it's set in a totally different time frame it would be cool to see how it's developed or how it was before it developed.

[nothere413]

Originally Posted by Random Turnip

I just love fallout. I'll happily admit to being a fan boy, although in a few ways F3 disapointed me, still a freaking epic game, but it wasn't 100% true to the story line for the originals, although it was a different company, and they made a decent job of it. I'm hoping for more black comedy involved this time, that's one of the things Bethesda missed, there was bits, but not enough.

Anyway, this has a few original devs involved, and i'm hoping they go for more of a F2 approach this time, as in someone who's used to living in the wastes and not a vault dweller. But, as usual, i have my worries. They better take ntoe of New Reno and the 4 gangs from F2, or i'll be slightly pissed. Although if it's set in a totally different time frame it would be cool to see how it's developed or how it was before it developed.

Apparently it's taking alot of influence from "Project Van Buren", the original Fallout 3 that got canceled before it was finished and the IP was sold to Bethesda.

[ILikeCereal]

Where's the contest on the home page?

[Aaron]

Thanks Paul for teasing me, now I'm going to be counting the days until FNV comes. .You know how much I love fallout.

[Jedi Sasquatch]

I was in the middle of playing through Fallout 3 when Mass Effect 2 came out and stopped me dead in my tracks. Urgh, my list of games I have to beat just keeps piling up...

[Oggie]

I'm just curious about whether or not the guy at the end, is like a BoS or maybe some new antagonist or maybe your actual character.

Also, I read a while back that this game was gonna have origin stories like in Dragon Age. For example one of them was you were a chinese soldier and you didn't make it to a bunker in time for the bombs to drop so you were a ghoul and you had bonuses for it. I think 2 of the bonuses were that ghouls wouldn't attack you and radiation wouldn't affect you.

I will try to find the article again if I can.

[Jedi Sasquatch]

Originally Posted by Archangel

I'm just curious about whether or not the guy at the end, is like a BoS or maybe some new antagonist or maybe your actual character.

Also, I read a while back that this game was gonna have origin stories like in Dragon Age. For example one of them was you were a chinese soldier and you didn't make it to a bunker in time for the bombs to drop so you were a ghoul and you had bonuses for it. I think 2 of the bonuses were that ghouls wouldn't attack you and radiation wouldn't affect you.

I will try to find the article again if I can.

That would be badass.

I always thought it'd be cool if you got the choice to be a ghoul in Fallout.

[Oggie]

By the way, here are some more details, but I'm not sure if all of this is just a rumor or not, but I hope it isn't because this sounds BADASS!

- Similar to Dragon Age: Origins, at character creation the player can select from different background stories. The first few hours of the game are different depending on which background you choose, and you get some unique perks based on your background when the main game begins.

- One background story is shown, Chinese Agent. The background story takes place before the bombs fell. The player is part of a team of Crimson Dragoons infilitrating Hoover Dam. You manage to sneak through the Americans' defenses, set explosives, and head to an extraction point, but your escape is cut off by American soldiers in Power Armor. The player and other survivors of the Crimson Dragoons take refuge in a cave in the canyons, where they commit hari kari with cyanide capsules. The player about to do the same when the bombs fall. The background story ends an indeterminate time later, when the player exits the cave, removes his helmet, and sees his ghoulish reflection in the waters of the Colorado River.

- The background story segues into character creation. The player can customize the appearance of the ghoul, and you see you start the game with two unique perks. One, similar to the Ghoul Mask in Fallout 3, makes Feral Ghouls non-aggro. The other makes the player immune to radiation sickness and allows the player to discharge accumulated radiation in a blast similar to a Glowing Ghoul, healing the player and any mutants while damaging all non-mutants in range.

- By default, the Chinese Agent has the skills Sneak, Small Arms, and Explosives tagged and SPECIAL stats set, although the player can modify their tagged skills and stats if they don't like the template.

- One character background option is Lone Wanderer. This selection has no background story or template and is a complete blank slate for players.

- The SPECIAL system used will be similar to Fallout 3, but skills will be harder to cap and one character will not be able to become a master of all skills. The article is not very specific because apparently it's something the developers are still tweaking.

- Gambling will return, but not as a skill. Your Luck stat will effect gambling results. You can attempt to cheat at cards using your Sneak skill or hack slot machines using your Science skill.

- There will be vehicles. The desert of New Vegas dwarfs the Capital Wasteland and you will need transportation to get around and explore it. You will acquire a vehicle several hours into the main quest. You can customize your vehicle with parts bought at shops or won through racing circuits and quests. Vehicles will not be common, but you will encounter road gangs, merchant caravans, and other vehicles in the wastes. The open desert is home to some very large mutant creatures, like giant radscorpions and sandworms, that will attack your vehicle.

- New Vegas has a coliseum run by a slaver gang called the Caesar's Legion. You can gamble on and participate in arena fights.

Wow, I really hope all of this is true, because the coliseum thing sounds pretty cool as well as the background stories. And if it isn't true, then this dude needs to be hired and put this stuff into the game, lol.

Source: Fallout New Vegas first info - Fallout: New Vegas Message Board for Xbox 360 - GameFAQs

[Unforgiveing656]

i think i just jizzed my pants

[Oggie]

Originally Posted by Unforgiveing656

i think i just jizzed my pants

Lol, I know right.

When I found that on N4G, I was like, HOLY ****Z!!!!! I just hope that all of that info I provided is in the game because the origin stories were pretty awesome in DA:O, but just imagine that in the Fallout universe.

[knarF]

@Archangel.

I don't know how much of that is true, but the guy you see at the end of the vid, he's from the Californian Republic, a gang that features in F2. I also remember a guy being mentioned who fits that description (his name might have been something like Jecht (i know that's from FFX, lol), i can't remember). With the lights being on, i guess it's possible that the story line could be to do with hover damn, but i seriously doubt it's set before the war, that would beat the point of Fallout.

@Aaron;
Tell me about it, this is like when i first heard about Fallout 3, but worse.

They said that over the coming weeks there will be mre info released and something apparently tonight. Bethesda really know how to build hype up.

[Oggie]

About the guy, I read somewhere that he is in some faction called the Desert Rangers but I dunno if that is true either.

But when you said that about it not being before the war might be true, but they could have background stories set before the war, if you know what I mean.

[knarF]

Originally Posted by Archangel

About the guy, I read somewhere that he is in some faction called the Desert Rangers but I dunno if that is true either.

But when you said that about it not being before the war might be true, but they could have background stories set before the war, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, i get ya. Yeah, the desert rangers in F2 dressed like that, and that flag is deffinatly from the New Californian Republic. Also, the guy who i was thinking of was Tycho (not jecht lol), would be interesting if that was him.

I'm very sure that it's set before the war, else the flag and the pip-boy on the guy would make no sense at all, pip-boys were only issued inside vaults, and no one would have been in and out of a vault before the vault, except there was one vault that never closed, i can't remember which one.


Edit, the cowboy on the robot's screen, that's Vagas Vic, a marketing character from the 50's...

[knarF]

Some new updates including some info about the features of the game. Sorta sounds like the Fallout 3 that early Fallout fans wanted. Anyway, copy pasta coming up...

# There is an optional hardcore mode, the character needs to drink water, ammo has weight, healing isn't instant etc.

# Normal mode is more similar to Fallout 3 gameplay.

# The storyline is focused on the New California Republic vs. Caesar's Legion (slavers from the east) vs. New Vegas residents.

# You are not a vault dweller but are given a Pip-Boy by someone who is one.

# There is a screenshot of a vault suit as well.

# There is an assault rifle looking like the M4, as well as a new big gun with a backpack, held like a minigun.

# There are special moves for melee weapons in VATS - specifically a move for a golf club called "Fore" which seems to be a groin shot.

# The Hoover Dam is in the game and is supplying electricity to the city.

# There is a quest to rescue a ghoul from some super mutants. The ghoul can then become your companion

# The Geckos are back.

# There are both dumb and intelligent super mutants, including the elite Nightkin. On at least one occasion you can convince them to fight amongst themselves.

# Some super mutants look similar to the ones in Fallout 3, while others are new. There is e.g. a female super mutant with a 1950s hairstyle who apparently is one of their leaders.

# Screenshots include a guy with a beard and straw hat, a ghoul and an NCR Ranger.

# The only picture of New Vegas itself is concept art and not a screenshot.

# Some location screenshots include a huge model dinosaur advertising a hotel, some satellite dishes, an array of solar panels

# A character generation shot showing a "vigour machine" instead of the skill book

# NCR base is the McCarran Airport, Caesar's Legion is based in the Vegas Strip, while super mutants are based in a place called Black Mountain.

# There is also a town called Fremont and another called Primm. A topless reuve is mentioned as being in the latter. Area 51 also appears.

# NCR Ranger armor is similar to a brown combat armor with sleeves, there are concept arts of a Ranger.

# Skils have a bigger effect on conversation choices. E.g. someone with a high Explosives skill may be able to have a coversation about explosives where appropriate.

# There is a Reputation system in addition to Karma.

# First-person action RPG with the same engine as Fallout 3.

# Set in the Mojave wastelands. Vegas didn't get many nukes. More intact buildings, as well as desert vegetation. Vegas itself is mostly intact.

# Vegas itself is mostly intact

# Both karma and reputation are tracked. If I'm reading it right there's separate reputations for each of the settlements, as in 1 and 2.

# All dialogue options are shown to all players, regardless of whether you have the stats to succeed or not, though there's no punishment for failure.

# Bartering is not just lower prices but negotiating for better rewards.

# Weapons also now have knock-back upon death, with shotguns sending people flying.

# Followers can be managed through a context-sensitive menu, with orders like "follow", "stay" or "attack".

# You're a courier, wounded and left for dead in a shallow grave. A friendly robot, Victor, digs you out, and his doctor owner Mitchell patches you up. You take a "vigour test", which is some sort of electric parlour game. This decides who you are and sets up SPECIAL. You can also take some Rorschach tests, but the mag says this is for fun. The Doc then gives you a Pipboy as he was once a Vault dweller.

# "Hoover Dam", and "Helios" (a solar plant, confirmed by the mag to have been built by Poseidon) are fought into and then you can direct the power to wherever you choose. In the case of Helios you can also keep the plant for your self, use the energy to call down a powerful laser, or even try to distribute to all equally, however there is a risk of overloading the reactors.

# There is a "reputation system", in which all three factions (NCR, Ceasar's Legion and the locals) will either see you as good or bad toward them individually.

# There is a screenshot of three Capital Wasteland mutants running toward the player, who is wielding what *looks* to be a heavy incinerator, but has a TV screen and no flamer fuel tanks. He's also wearing NCR combat armour, which is in gold/mustard colours.

# There are two separate screens of supermutants that look to be more local, grey skin, and the two are wearing very different clothes. One is Tabitha, who is hearing a blonde wig and love heart glasses. The mag implies she's "not all there".

# On that quest, you rescue Raul, a ghoul who Tabitha kept alive to fix her favourite robot. He appears to be a follower, as the mag says you can give him items, and also commands, such as "stay, follow or attack", and also tell him to switch to melee, in which case he'll mutter "sure, I'll put away my rather effective gun, and switch to this piece of um, metal tubing here".

# From what I read, the "all dialog" thing seems to imply there will be failures for skill checks as well as speech checks, though, as the mag states, there is no penalty for failing a skill check. In fact, the mag gives an example: A woman who the player tried a Sneak skill attempt on in conversation failed when convincing her an ambush would help the town be rid of a gang of raiders. She simply says "Good luck with your, uh, ambush"



This is now the New Vagas speculation thread.

[Oggie]

You spelled Vegas wrong, lol.

But where did you find all of this info?

[knarF]

Well it was all in a few magazines that came out today. But i copied that from No Mutants Allowed. I go there a lot because i'm sad.

>.< @ spelling mistake.

[Poco]

Yea Ive been waiting for this game for eva! iam excited to have it! I have a question tho..is it a direct sequel to Fallout 3?

[nothere413]

Originally Posted by Poco

Yea Ive been waiting for this game for eva! iam excited to have it! I have a question tho..is it a direct sequel to Fallout 3?

No. None of the games are really sequels to one-another, unless you count how they referenced the events of the first game in the second.


It's gonna be a lot different than Fallout 3. And from what I've been reading, it has potential to be loads better.

[Jedi Sasquatch]

I know the G.E.C.K. plays a part in FO2, is it the same one that's in FO3? If so, then you could say that's a reference too.

[Poco]

Thanks man for the help I see! I wonder if will take place in Vegas?

[Orion]

Originally Posted by Poco

Thanks man for the help I see! I wonder if will take place in Vegas?

Oh man, wouldn't that be cool.

[knarF]

Originally Posted by Poco

Yea Ive been waiting for this game for eva! iam excited to have it! I have a question tho..is it a direct sequel to Fallout 3?

No, it's set in the same universe, so will include references to other Fallouts probably.

Originally Posted by Jedi Sasquatch

I know the G.E.C.K. plays a part in FO2, is it the same one that's in FO3? If so, then you could say that's a reference too.

The GECK is a device for creating clean water and vegetation that was issued to certain vault tech caults, but not all of them. So it's the same device, but not the exact same one.

Originally Posted by Poco

Thanks man for the help I see! I wonder if will take place in Vegas?

It will be set in Vagas, but remember, the Fallout universe is styslised in the 50's, like rero futurism, so it will be in Vagas, but as people from the 1950's thought it would look like in the future, if you get what i mean, like people in the 50's thought we'd be living on the moon by now, that kinda thing.

/fallout guru style knowledge

[Jedi Sasquatch]

Bump!

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